is the NEW Cat Porty Pump the best and more Porty talk

[Mikey P]

...probably too soon to tell but I'm curious if you can run powder through it.

Willy says you cant run powder rinse through a Pumptech with out killing it in a month or so..

Huh?

I know Mytee uses those pmps in some models..

How the hell to you offer a warranty on something like that John?

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Willy what model of Mytee (M series no longer being made?) would you recommend for a guy who will use it a few times a year?


I personally need one for city/high rise work, upholstery and the very occasional CDG job where VLM or noise isn't allowed.

If I could use my 2" 10 flow 14" wand that would be all the better but I do have a glided 802 as an option.

No auto fill, no heat unless YOU think it really works with a wand.

What do you think of these

 

[Willy P]

First off, the most problematic one I've used is the gold 207 v model. I've had 3. First one lasted 11 months till puking, second one was the one I found out powders void warranties lasted weeks, the third blew up in a little over a year. Now the blue 205v, which incidentally accepts the same parts, lasted as long as 18 months. My last General went 6 years with bi-annual oil changes - there's a reason John L uses them. Hypro's lasted about 18 months until I got rid of the internal heater that helped to prematurely cook them. Amp draw on the Hypro and the General , both far superior pumps was a bear though.

The new Cat is installed in the Worrier, I'll take some pics when it goes in to get the vacs replaced next week. There isn't a hugely noticeable difference in performance, but just simply listening to it ,I'm more than sure it's going to outlast what I've used in a low amp draw situation.

 

[Mikey P]

no recommendation?

 

[Willy P]

General, IF you can get the amps to run it and 2 three stage vacs, preferably in series. Higher CFM's will give you better recovery. I haven't give the Cat a good run yet, but I give it second place for now, mainly for it's lower amp draw. Most of my work is high rise stuff and I have no problems with electricity to run both the 2 cord machine and a 2 cord heater without having to get my electrician's certification.

 

[Mikey P]

no the pump Willy, the whole machine!

 

[Willy P]

Next machine? Probably the Mytee with the General and dual 3 stages. John's one of the few manufacturers that build with quality and service with integrity. Took him a while to win me over, but he listens to his customer base and us on the porty hack patrol and the components all seem first rate. In whats my primary service scope, I rarely run more than 35 feet of hose, except I use a 15 foot pressure lead going to the heater.

 

[John LaBarbera]

...probably too soon to tell but I'm curious if you can run powder through it.

Willy says you cant run powder rinse through a Pumptech with out killing it in a month or so..

Huh?

I know Mytee uses those pmps in some models..

How the hell to you offer a warranty on something like that John?

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Willy what model of Mytee (M series no longer being made?) would you recommend for a guy who will use it a few times a year?


I personally need one for city/high rise work, upholstery and the very occasional CDG job where VLM or noise isn't allowed.

If I could use my 2" 10 flow 14" wand that would be all the better but I do have a glided 802 as an option.

No auto fill, no heat unless YOU think it really works with a wand.

What do you think of these

The new Cat pump is very good. It has a lot of features like the piston connecting rods. They create a very smoothe operation, with out vibration like the solid single piece piston arrangement like the old Hypro.

As far as a Machine to use as you describe, the Speedster 1005 for $1999.00, I think is the way to go. Sold thru local distributors it's by far the most distributor supported extractor out there. Dual 3 stage vacs (144"/ 230 cfm) 500 psi Cat Pump, 50' detachable power cords and 2" vac inlet. 12" wheels and 5" ball bearing casters for ease of mobility.

 

[Mikey P]

http://youtu.be/ZK0d2jOhvWs


That looks great John.


pretty much exactly what I would want.



love the Chem Dry ad running over your video... how ironic..



send one out and I'll ban Jimmy in exchange.

 

[Mikey P]

and hear I thought this was state of the art...

 

[Bob Savage]

Cat makes great pumps. I'm sure their new one will be a winner.

I have been using my 600 PSI PumpTec 205V, with chemical injection, for 2 years now without a hitch.

The cleaning chemical going through it has had no adverse effect.

 

[John LaBarbera]

and hear I thought this was state of the art...

Is this what you call "®The Center Of The Carpet Cleaning Universe©"?

 

[Mikey P]

more like the clusterfook of the CCing universe..

 

[ruff]

Next machine? Probably the Mytee with the General and dual 3 stages. John's one of the few manufacturers that build with quality and service with integrity. Took him a while to win me over, but he listens to his customer base and us on the porty hack patrol and the components all seem first rate. In whats my primary service scope, I rarely run more than 35 feet of hose, except I use a 15 foot pressure lead going to the heater.

John is a great guy and I have 3 of his portables + quite a few of his other products.
The machines are very powerful and he does listen to his clients.

The only criticism that I have (and maybe he already fixed it with the new machines) is that sometimes he saves money on the silliest things. A cheap screw to keep the machine (access to motors) closed that falls off frequently, instead of a good quality latch. Things that save him at most a few dollars and make one really annoyed.
If he charged a little more $ for his machines and used only top notch parts, he'd be untouchable. The king of the hill. The hilly billy king of redneckdom.

Maybe that's why he doesn't

 

[John LaBarbera]

John is a great guy and I have 3 of his portables + quite a few of his other products.
The machines are very powerful and he does listen to his clients.

The only criticism that I have (and maybe he already fixed it with the new machines) is that sometimes he saves money on the silliest things. A cheap screw to keep the machine (access to motors) closed that falls off frequently, instead of a good quality latch. Things that save him at most a few dollars and make one really annoyed.
If he charged a little more $ for his machines and used only top notch parts, he'd be untouchable. The king of the hill. The hilly billy king of redneckdom.

Maybe that's why he doesn't

Thanks Ofer,
Point well taken. We have been consentrating on raising the quality of Mytee products for a while now. A case in point is the new T-Rex. While some of our competitors rushed to the market and release their product before it was ready, Mytee, with the assistance of Jerry Valentine and others, have refine and tweaked and improve our rotary. We're committed to do this with everything we make going forward.

 

[FB19087]

Thanks Ofer,
Point well taken. We have been consentrating on raising the quality of Mytee products for a while now. A case in point is the new T-Rex. While some of our competitors rushed to the market and release their product before it was ready, Mytee, with the assistance of Jerry Valentine and others, have refine and tweaked and improve our rotary. We're committed to do this with everything we make going forward.

so is it 2% better in 2000 ways now?

and which competitors specifically? Since we all know you don't like people being so vague given your responses in the Hank/SS thread...............

 

[Mikey P]

John,
Fred makes a great point..
When Hank Unk made a very similar vague comment about their competition he hot his ass handed to him by most every one on this board, including you...

Do let me ask you...Why do you think Sapphire and Roto Vac went to market to soon with their first rotary extractors?

 

[ruff]

This is what Hank Unk said:

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Some manufacturers don't care that much for our industry and, some care even less, as long as you buy their products. But, Sapphire and Dri-Eaz do not have a "give me your money and go away" mentality.

The people can decide if its the same.

 

[FB19087]

Looks the same to me
I don't ever remember Larry cobb

, Scott Worrington and or others trying to build their company's credibility by putting others down. As a marketing/sales guy, he should know that and know better.
A statement like his, coming from a sales rep about his company, smells fishy and leaves a bad after taste.

If you have wonderful things to tell about Mytee, or give examples that support his assertion about his competitors, tell us Ofer.

Otherwise, it is just another sales person trying to gain an edge by putting his competitors down.

True. It was not a company specific put down, just a generic one. Which happens to put Mytee on a pedestal and bundle the competition to a group that does not test their products before releasing them to BDCCs.

Some put down the competition to build themselves up. Some just say great things about themselves.

 

[ruff]

Touche.

And which great American did you quote ?

 

[FB19087]

 

[ruff]

Though one, say another great American, may say:
maybe I missed something but you guys seem to be on a bit of a witch-hunt.......

who did he put down?

You think every manufacturer in the industry has customer satisfaction as a top priority? There aren't any you can think of that through their products, actions, or disconnect with the people actually cleaning carpets fit Hank's statement?

If the statements were made about "some carpet cleaning companies" by a carpet cleaner would your reaction be the same?

I also agree with Ron K about Ken not being the average customer.......and I don't think his response about meeting vendors at events really changes anything. How would you expect a vendor to act at an event? Beyond that if they are at events they may not be who Hank is talking about........

Maybe those questioning should tell us who they think Hank is talking about cause it seems they have someone in mind




You are questioning a sentence. One that was prefaced with context.

and I will say given my recent experience one I 100% agree with........

maybe he should not have said it...but it doesn't make it any less true

 

[Mikey P]

No witch hunt at all..

I encourage "liveliness" between the advertisers...
Im just asking for consistency...

 

[ruff]

Pay attention Mike.
The above was Fred's quote that I copied from the original "Unk disaster thread."
No suggestion of witch hunt on my side. Fred knows what I'm talking about

It's a new game here, you may not be privy to. If you have any questions Parkour may be your man: http://mikeysboard.com/forum/showthread.php?264591-Parkour-the-latest-sensation-to-sweep-the-nation

 

[Mikey P]

The new chimp keeping you well stocked in dubies?

 

[Larry Cobb]

Mikey;

The best portable pump IS the General model used in the LTD5.

It does deliver 2.2 GPM, which is ideal for high-flow flushing, or Grout cleaning .

Next would be the Cat in the Mytee 1005. It delivers 1.45 GPM which draws less current.

Do you always have 20 amp circuits to plug into ?

The General would require that, while the 1005DX could get by on 15 amps.

Larry

 

[ruff]

The new chimp keeping you well stocked in dubies?

I am not sure I would want to know what "dubies" are and no, don't tell me.

It is a small world though, ain't it?

 

[Willy P]

Mikey;

The best portable pump IS the General model used in the LTD5.

It does deliver 2.2 GPM, which is ideal for high-flow flushing, or Grout cleaning .

Next would be the Cat in the Mytee 1005. It delivers 1.45 GPM which draws less current.

Do you always have 20 amp circuits to plug into ?

The General would require that, while the 1005DX could get by on 15 amps.

Larry

Yes - Mr. Amps has his limitations.
My burned up golden oldy Ninja - awesome vac and a great pump.This was the second one in the shell and the base had to be reinforced with a thicker gauge sheet of metal. 140 pounds, I'm glad I'm stronger than the average bear.
With another set of 2 two stage vacs ported on the opposite side of the lid. Both sets were in series, but the way the lid was ported, it ran the 2 sets as a parallel system.

General one one cord with low amp 2 stage and a higher performance 2 stage on the other cord. Same vac set up in the booster box, but that ran on one cord.

Borrowed this pic from Ted at Kleenkwip where I swapped an old PB Ultimate for the vac booster.

My toasted booster. I lost over 18 k on that fire. Van loaded to the brim with equipment. I got $3000 from insurance.
Upside- Plenty of flow and massive vacuum at my normal 35 feet and it could have easily run 100 with enough power. Performance second to none. The pump lasted through 6 sets of vac motors.
Downside. - Heavy, had to replace the rear wheels and axles a lot, had to be refilled once to do a 1 bedroom. 3 cords, but I had that figured out.

I'm no guru, but I can make

my friend!