I have not spent much time using butler’s dual wand system. We are now in a position where it makes sense to have another third and/or fourth person drive to sites and use two wands. My question is what drawbacks are there using the dual wands? Does it effect vac or psi or heat? Any tricks to make it more effective?
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hogjowl
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Personal experience has been that dual wanding with a Butler is not optimal. Tools would have to never leave carpet and water pressure is too inconsistent from my experience
We frequently will run one upholstery tool and one wand off a Butler up to 150' max in Mach 2
Key is to keep the tools locked down when not in use
Water pressure does fluctuate but not significantly IMO
Opinions may vary
We frequently will run one upholstery tool and one wand off a Butler up to 150' max in Mach 2
Key is to keep the tools locked down when not in use
Water pressure does fluctuate but not significantly IMO
Opinions may vary
Desk Jockey
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Tried it a few times over the last several decades. All I can say is its better than a portable. 
Need to dual wand? Get a Prochem Everest. Its a beast! We love it!
I think what I would do John is run 2.5 to a 2 inch Y and a solution Y. That would be low cost experiment. I hated hooking up to the tank. If you feel you need to use the tank run a 2.5 whip down to the ground and connect there.
I remember it having a harder time picking up the vacuum advance but once it did it ran fine.
Need to dual wand? Get a Prochem Everest. Its a beast! We love it!
I think what I would do John is run 2.5 to a 2 inch Y and a solution Y. That would be low cost experiment. I hated hooking up to the tank. If you feel you need to use the tank run a 2.5 whip down to the ground and connect there.
I remember it having a harder time picking up the vacuum advance but once it did it ran fine.
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Bob Pruitt
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I don't think it's a dual wand machine anymore than 95% of the so called dual wand machines are. Need a very big blower to maintain enough airflow for that.
Bob Pruitt
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If the wands are kept in contact with the carpet except for normal transitions, then it will work but - to work in a normal way, it takes a bigger blower, which is an option on the 870 ... I think Damon, and of course the Aero Tech.
Mark Saiger
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It has been said...but I wouldn't
Love my Butlers, but really better and faster doing single wand off them with high flow wand situation.
Tonight...we are still down to the one van...second Butler replacing one we sold almost done at the wrap....but we are cleaning a bad restaurant situation and there is really no advantage to try and dual wand and make better time than with a single wand or zipper running off of the one Butler for us tonight.
Love my Butlers, but really better and faster doing single wand off them with high flow wand situation.
Tonight...we are still down to the one van...second Butler replacing one we sold almost done at the wrap....but we are cleaning a bad restaurant situation and there is really no advantage to try and dual wand and make better time than with a single wand or zipper running off of the one Butler for us tonight.
Lee Stockwell
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Justin and I both have true dual wand capable trucks.
Out of a typical 700 hr year I doubt either of us dual wand over 5 or six hours, it's better to rock one in most cases.
Out of a typical 700 hr year I doubt either of us dual wand over 5 or six hours, it's better to rock one in most cases.
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We used to do a little dual wanding with our CDS units. Anymore if it really needs two wands I'd just assume use two trucks and start on opposite ends of the job. Plus you definitely notice the lack of vacuum when dual wanding, solution pressure not as much.
Wow! I totally expected the opposite. Thank you all for your input. It felt like a dumb question but I am very glad I asked.
hogjowl
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You’re going to get skewered no matter what you ask. Nobody here worries about being an idiot.
Cleanworks
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We are all idiots.
Lee Stockwell
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I always got all "A"s in school, yet I'm a carpet cleaner / idiot.
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Dad we dual wanded for like 95 hours in less than 2 weeks. but i get the point. You gotta swing by for more than lunch.
Lee Stockwell
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So, as Justin noted, he dual wanded for less than 2 weeks out of 52...Dad we dual wanded for like 95 hours in less than 2 weeks. but i get the point. You gotta swing by for more than lunch.
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Nate The Great
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I was a more "AAAA you, we don't put mirrors on your shoes" student.... 
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Strictly a "B" student but I never took a book home or studied for a test. lol
Too focused on chasing girls and sports.
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Too focused on chasing girls and sports.
Man, if I could do it all again I'd do it all different!
Yep, fook sports!
