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I was wrong about you. I apologize !!!



But you haven't swayed my opinion on anything

You don't need to spend $25 to $50 thousand dollars today on a TM to clean carpet

Encaps Spotters Bonnets OP Machines everything to do with VLM has improved dramatically over the last 10 years

Thank You Excellent Supply TOPS VacAway HOS and all the other VLM Suppliers

LESS water MORE agitation

It doesn't matter what method you use in 2025. You must get carpets clean and dry as fast as possible to survive in the carpet cleaning business. It's not the 1990's anymore and customers won't tolerate long dry times, wicking, dingy looking carpet, quick resoiling carpet. VLM eliminates all those problems. Wicking can still happen but is much less of a problem with VLM. The number one question I get is NOT where did the dirt go. It's how long will it take for the carpets to dry. 99% of the customers today don't care about the method. They just want clean dry carpet.



It's not the 1990's anymore !!!

It's 2025 and VLM with 1-3 hour dry times is how carpets are cleaned today
 
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Go back and look. I have three pictures on this page and one pic on page 3. Do you see any corn rows ???

If you use stiff brushes to groom with on some carpets you could leave corn rows. I use soft wool brushes for grooming plus a 10'' CRB is very light

Sorry no corn rows when job is finished

After I use the 14'' CRB to scrub it does leave some corn rows on some carpets but my OP takes those lines out and leaves light swirl marks on some carpets. The 10'' CRB takes the swirl marks out

10'' CRB grooms the carpet better than a brush. It would be faster to groom with a brush but I like the way a 10'' CRB grooms carpet

NO CORN ROWS !!!

Anymore questions ???

I love VLM !!!
Do you remove and clean the brushes on the 10 in crb after every job to avoid cross contamination?

What about your vacuum?
 
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Only on Mikeysboard could a thread change from the industry shaking news of the demise of Jon Don to a debate about VLM vs HWE

Still, some of the most spirited, and often well thought out, debates we see here are over this subject.
 

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I don’t have to be retired to be pissy

Only on Mikeysboard could a thread change from the industry shaking news of the demise of Jon Don to a debate about VLM vs HWE

Still, some of the most spirited, and often well thought out, debates we see here are over this subject.
The reason Marty is pissy I’d because he misses Fred since this thread hasn’t been broken into two different threads like Fred would’ve fixed.

But Marty is probably one of the few that miss him, so it’s no big deal.

But seriously, this thread needs to be broken into a separate topic
 
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The reason Marty is pissy I’d because he misses Fred since this thread hasn’t been broken into two different threads like Fred would’ve fixed.

But Marty is probably one of the few that miss him, so it’s no big deal.

But seriously, this thread needs to be broken into a separate topic

I would agree, let's see what Mikey P wants to do.

I think there is so much good, searchable information here that it would benefit those who lurk to see the "VLM vs HWE" discussion under that type of heading.
 
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The reason Marty is pissy I’d because he misses Fred since this thread hasn’t been broken into two different threads like Fred would’ve fixed.

But Marty is probably one of the few that miss him, so it’s no big deal.

But seriously, this thread needs to be broken into a separate topic
I remember when Cermack ran the board. He would let the threads run on and on.
I always wondered why Mike picked Fred over Hoody.

Here's another split lol.

I like the running conversations myself. People will get back to the topic when they have more to contribute.

Im being less pissy these days.
 

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So, staying off topic cause it don’t really matter anyways, they’re gone they’re gone! They were never a factor to me. You don’t have to spend 25-50 k for a truckmount to get a carpet clean. There’s plenty out there for less, if you’re gonna do residential. I know there are chems supposedly for residential encap. I don’t know of any of Excellent Supply that’s an actually fit for that situation. I use em all except Encap basic or 1. I think the Encapstore would come closer to
that than anyone, but still.
 

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