rebuilding a porty

[Dolly Llama]

I have a Prochem Cheyenne porty I bought new 18-20 years ago.
It's been up in the barn loft for 15 years .
I want to rebuild it for use in an upcoming project

it was originally 100psi pump and twin 2 stage vacs

can I use these vac motors?

http://www.centralvacuumonline.com/motors/115334.html?gclid=CNP73_rw67UCFe9aMgodrQYACA


I figure to replace the 100psi pump w/200psi
do 200 psi pumps come in the same/similar config as 100psi Flojets??...cause i don't want to do a lot of retrofitting of parts .
I want everything to pretty much drop in with minimal fabricating/mounting needs



..L.T.A.

 

[Nate The Great]

Is it 1 cord or 2? You could switch the pump to a 200psi on-demand Mytee pump... I think it's a surflo pump with a Mytee badge on it... For the vacuums the Cheyenne I had was 2 3stage vacs in series (sucking the exhaust or the other).. I dunno how it is on the 2-2stages, most likely the same...

I stripped down the Cheyenne I had cuz it had a crack in the fresh water tank by the front wheel... It was part of some equipment we bought...

 

[Dolly Llama]

. For the vacuums the Cheyenne I had was 2 3stage vacs in series (sucking the exhaust or the other).. I dunno how it is on the 2-2stages, most likely the same...

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Thanks Nate!
Name plate on it is Hydro-Force I see ...but it's the same.
this is it;

https://www.google.com/search?q=che...hC6iI0QG1vICwAQ&ved=0CGUQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=809

http://www.jccarpet.com/prochem/cheyenne.htm

it's was a two cord unit originally ..one for vacs/pump and one for heat..which is long since dEd and gone.
So i can wire a new cord and rocker switch where the heater cord and switch was .
Vacs are in series on mine too (if sucking the exhaust is "series") ..and I'm 99.2483% sure they're 2-stage
They still suk

Need a new pump for sure
But don't want anymore than 200-250 psi pump

I'll see if i can get Willy's attention ..... (he must be too busy counting his money)


..L.T.A.

 

[Desk Jockey]

I've got (2) Cheyenne's and a Comanche from that same era.

We use them occasionally for upholstery or fabric panel cleaning.

 

[Willy P]

Dual 3 stages, 7.2's. I prefer in parallel, but series will work too.50 foot vac hose runs, but I use 35 most of the time. I really like the new Cat pump, that'll give you up to 600 PSI or you can get a pumptec. Get the blue 205 pumptec is the number I think. Get an AW29 , rejet it with 1101.5's (3 flow) and put this 15 feet downline. http://www.***************/kleenrite-heatrite-line-heater-carpet-cleaners-p-3476.html

Any other questions?

SHUT UP RICHARD!

PS - Pull the thermostats out of the Heatrite (2 sets 190, 2 sets 210 and put in four 220 degree thermostats. Selco are the longest lasting and at 5 to 10 bucks from a hot water control place. Here's where I get mine from. In Canuckistan they run $8 each.

http://www.regalcontrols.com/

PPS - Lose the internal heater. It cooks the other components up.

 

[Desk Jockey]

SHUT UP RICHARD!

Hey I'm being good!

 

[Willy P]

http://www.wolfautomation.com/products/36103/34-disc-thermostat-surface-mountbrselco-ses-t11-series

 

[Willy P]

Hey I'm being good!

Preemptive strike.

 

[Willy P]

http://www.***************/pumptec-series-205v-095m410-pump-more-horse-power-volt-p-10869.html

 

[Dolly Llama]

Get the blue 205 pumptec is the number I think.

THIS??

http://www.dultmeier.com/products/search/6805

Any other questions?

Yea.... WTH do i need to replace t-stats on a brand new heater???


PS - Pull the thermostats out of the Heatrite (2 sets 190, 2 sets 210 and put in four 220 degree thermostats. Selco are the longest lasting and at 5 to 10 bucks from a hot water control place. Here's where I get mine from. In Canuckistan they run $8 each.




L.T.A.

 

[Goldenboy]

Larry how broke are you? Is this what the younger generation of cleaners get to look forward to?


Golden Boy

 

[Dolly Llama]

http://www.***************/pumptec-series-205v-095m410-pump-more-horse-power-volt-p-10869.html

Willy, I'm not spending $700 bukz on a porty pump.
I don't need more than 200 psi .
I'd rather put the money in hi-perf vacs
gimmie some part #s for vacs


..L.T.A.

 

[Dolly Llama]

Larry how broke are you?

depends what day of the month it is...


..L.T.A.

 

[Goldenboy]

Fo Shure!

Golden Boy

 

[Willy P]

Larry, your gonna spend a couple hundy on a shit pump, spend a bit more and get some performance.
http://www.centralvacuummotor.com/lighthouse.htm

 

[Willy P]

THIS??

http://www.dultmeier.com/products/search/6805








Yea.... WTH do i need to replace t-stats on a brand new heater???


PS - Pull the thermostats out of the Heatrite (2 sets 190, 2 sets 210 and put in four 220 degree thermostats. Selco are the longest lasting and at 5 to 10 bucks from a hot water control place. Here's where I get mine from. In Canuckistan they run $8 each.




L.T.A.

Right pump, good price. Jump on it!

Replace the thermostats for hotter water. Duh!

 

[Dolly Llama]

Larry, your gonna spend a couple hundy on a shit pump, spend a bit more and get some performance.

you'll have to convince me it's worth three times as much for a porty that might get used once pr month...and 90% of that time will be doing upl


..L.T.A

 

[Willy P]

Sorry Larry - I thought you were cleaning carpet with it. 2000 watt heater than and I ain't no salesman or shill. I'm just telling you what I would do. (Y the vacs....)

 

[Dolly Llama]

(Y the vacs....)

'splain that, Lucy

and 'splain the difference of series and parallel ..pros/cons .

I'm just telling you what I would do

I'll pay attention as long as you don't talk about hockey ...
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ


..L.T.A.



..L.T.A.

 

[Willy P]

This explains it better than I could.

http://www.icsmag.com/articles/91728-an-in-depth-look-at-series-and-parallel-vacuum-configurations

 

[Larry Cobb]

Larry;

That vac motor is an antique model.

It only has 384 AirWatts.

A modern design with tapered fans that fits in the same dimensions has 673 AirWatts,

and uses less amps.

http://www4.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68&products_id=4928

Your machine is designed for 5.7" vac motors,

but may only have a single cord

A high-pressure pump is also a large quality improvement.

The one you looked at @ Dultmeier only has 1.1 GPM,

where our current model delivers 1.6 GPM.

A good drop-in pump replacement is this 220 PSI one:

http://www4.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68&products_id=4777

Larry

 

[Dolly Llama]

A modern design with tapered fans that fits in the same dimensions has 673 AirWatts,

and uses less amps.

http://www4.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68&products_id=4928

will they bolt right on, Lar??

Willy, as you can see, i don't think going parallel would be an "easy" fit .



.L.T.A.